Lali: “I grew up with that impetus of ‘you have to impose yourself’, go forward as a woman and as a creator”

Lali returns to acting and in her country with a series that seems to be made for her. “The funny thing is that I don’t know if it’s made for me but I said ‘I want to be Tamara Tenenbaum’, so here I am,” she says with humor and charisma that characterizes her so much. After the international success with “Sky Rojo” (2021), which led her to several weeks of filming in Spain, the release of her new songs (“Disciplina”, “N5” and “2 son 3”), being a jury of the last two editions of La Voz Argentina, the most watched television cycle of prime time; her tour of the country (with the Disciplina tour) that returned her close contact with her audience and getting back on stage after a pandemic, and even being proposed as an Outstanding Personality of Culture, Lali Espósito premieres “El fin del amor”. “This came out of a long audio of Keka asking me if I had read Tamara’s book. And she says, ‘Well, read it and we talk about it because I’m fascinated, super questioned and involved. This has to be done series,'” Lali told Filo.News.

Lali with Tamara Tenenbaum | Photo: Courtesy Prime Video

Hence the starting point that led her to delve into the pages of the contemporary philosopher. The end of love: wanting and taking in the XXI century (2019) analyzes and rethinks the traditional concept of “love”, disarming and assembling schemes of links, reflecting on it from the vision of multiple authors and thinkers, to consumption and contents of pop culture. However, mainly, Tamara is the main character for her essay.

She does not dissociate herself from the scene but takes charge of how impregnated are (or were in it) the patriarchal models and their mandates from her experience as a young woman raised in an Orthodox Jewish culture in the Buenos Aires neighborhood of Once who struggled to go to college, eat ham, and open up to the world as much as she could.

Lali, with Erika Halvorsen and Tamara Tenenbaum

A book that emerges as a kind of feminist manifesto of its era, and that transforms with each of its readers, goes from history to history, from lover to lover, and even from “transgressor” into transgressor; and of course even Lali. “I said, ‘A rehearsal to make it a series?’ Let’s see,” he thought at the time. I did read it, flash of course. I had heard by ear who Tamara Tenenbaum was but the truth is that I had not delved into what she wrote, what she said, and therefore not into her life. Her book is fascinating, what she conveys there. For me it is very unique. It is also for Erika and for Tamara herself,” she says.

“Keka” is Erika Halvorsen, author and screenwriter with a career that led her to make productions such as “The Red Thread” (), “You Will Desire Your Sister’s Man” (), the strip “Love After Loving” (“ADDA”, ) and the most recent “Little Victory” (2019, the same year in which The End of Love is published) and its sequel “Small Victories” (2021). A woman from the kitchen of fictions, who always officiated to represent female desire, the autonomy of their bodies and pleasures from the plot and its characters. A question that today, although there are not many productions that address these issues, at least they exist.

“Then the three of us got together,” Lali resumes, “Tamara, logically at first found it very strange to make a series of her life, her thoughts, who she is, what she considers part of life, the things that are good, others that are shit, of everything she tells. But it started like this: with great challenge from three artists from different branches wanting to make a series that does not exist, that we consider that there is no series today that tells us about all this as ‘The End of Love’ does”.

Composed of ten episodes of 30 minutes, this fiction has the direction of the winner of Canneseries, Leticia Dolera (“Vida Perfecta”), in charge of the first two chapters, along with Constanza Novick (“The future that comes”) and Daniel Barone (“The day they love me”, “Alma mia”). From her side as a producer, Lali says: “I got involved in everything.” “From day zero when we felt that this rehearsal of Tamara had to be transformed into a series, I was in the decisions. It was very enriching for me. Transfer an essay to a fiction script, choose the actors. Especially on set. Being behind the scenes for me was the richest, most I was in,” he adds.

Lali behind the scenes of “The End of Love” | Photo: Courtesy Prime Video

Thus, the main performances are in charge of a cast of talents that head: Verónica Llinás, Vera Spinetta, Mike Amigorena, Candela Vetrano, Mariana Genesio Peña, Andrés Gil, the participation of Benjamín Rojas, together with the revelation of Julieta Zapiola and Martina Campos.

A series of MGM International Television Productions for Amazon Studios, with production of K & S Films and Lali, who also launches his new song “Bailarás”, dedicated to “El fin del amor”, which incidentally, is his first national series for platforms.

Lali in “The End of Love” | Photo: Courtesy Prime Video

Since you read the book, there is a part in which Tamara tells how the novels of Cris Morena symbolized a representation of the world for many girls, when did you realize that you were a reference for your generation and for so many?

I realized in the tangible, in looking forward since I was very young and seeing what the spaces of Cris meant for others where I moved with art until I was 18.That can be seen in many ways: as strong if you are the same age as the one who dreams of that place or who loves that series you do or sings those songs. For me that was always very flashy because I was going to dance like any teenager and those who were in the same bowling alley watched the novels I was in. But for me it was very normal, I saw them as peers, not as fans. Growing up with that is great. He gave me a lot of job and for other things it’s a bit crazy, isn’t it? For example, for deeper things like the construction of your person, being well known from a very young age is strange.

Two Tamaras | Photo: Courtesy of Press Prime Video

But at the same time – whether or not they take over their spaces – Cris always talked about dreams to teenagers, about piolas things that are also good. I grew up and forged myself in that place but above all I always saw it from a very work side: I found at 14/15 what I wanted to do until I was old, and it seems to me something very cool to find the profession. Tamara also says it from other places, right? Like what wave all that touches the head of a lot of teenagers and is true, like any artistic fact that has an opinion, a form, and many people who live it and consume it.

Cande Vetrano, Lali Espósito and Martina Campos in “El Fin del Amor” | Photo: Courtesy Prime Video

For me it was always amazing. In fact I feel that if today I can get a little closer to having a production head or to be able to give my opinion at the artistic level of a piece, it is thanks to what I learned next to a woman like Cris Morena, who is a pioneer in her own thing, with a very special head and who banked it being a mine, Very lonely, in a very typical environment. I admire that a lot and I grew up with that impetus of “you have to impose yourself”, if you want to do something you have to go forward as a woman and as a creator.
In the series there is a chapter in which your character says: ‘I had to fight with many things’, what things did you have to fight with on this path that you just remembered?

Uff with a lot. Like you, surely to be here occupying your role. I think that until the last day we will be here fighting for a lot of issues. Oero I think the most beautiful thing about having to fight with the medium that is, and try to break those schemes for one to occupy the place for which he is working, deserves and has everything to do it; It is that I fought for myself, for my companions, and others fought before me so that I can fight for my spaces. It’s a great chain that we learned to make both in art and in a lot of worlds.

I grew up in Cris with classmates much bigger than me, who taught me and showed me where I was, others who taught me nothing or everything bad too. I think that’s a search, isn’t it? Make those alliances, find those looks, empathic companions that give you the place for you to develop. If I am doing this interview with you, it is because Erika, Tamara, have allowed me to spread my creative wings and I allowed that to others. I think that one is always fighting with things but more than that one is also making alliances, and that seems to me a more powerful look.
Who do you dedicate this series to?

I dedicate it to my generation very especially, to those of us in our thirties or thereabouts. Because there really are no series, and less in our country, that talk about life at 30: what happens to me when I want to pay rent, when I am in love but I also ask myself a lot of questions because our generation came to break many things of our old people as in terms of sex-affective bonds.

Lali in “The End of Love” | Photo: Courtesy Prime Video

I dedicate it with all my heart to our generation although it is a series that everyone can see but especially also to women. Lali Espósito, stars and produces “El Fin del Amor”, inspired by the novethat of the philosopher and communicator Tamara Tenenbaum, who captures her reflections and experiences in fictional format, together with the work of the showrunner, Erika Halvosen. Feminist manifesto of our times that goes from lover to lover, and even from “transgressor” to transgressor; like his series. It is now available on Prime Video.
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