Juan Grabois in Caja Negra: “Massa has the commissioner’s horse and we have the Marshal’s cane”

He founded the Movement of Excluded Workers, the Union of Workers of the Popular Economy and the Frente Patria Grande. He is a lawyer, graduated in Social Sciences and advisor to the Vatican. In the Union for the Fatherland campaign, he distanced himself from Sergio Massa by virtue of a proposal: no landless peasant, no homeless family, no worker without rights. Today, in Caja Negra: Juan GraboisAt the end of the closing of lists, Juan Grabois, who had dropped out of the presidential race, decided to present a list at the last minute in Union for the Fatherland. His differences with Massa, beginnings in politics and electoral objectives in a hand-to-hand that will give to talk. This interview was recorded on Monday, August 7.
“I have a memory that is not mine, that I am told by classmates from primary school and especially from the first year of high school, which is that I said I was going to be President. I don’t really remember.” What I do remember is that when I was a boy, I was ten years old, my father worked in the Ministry of the Interior and in an activity he takes me and Menem was there and all the people were there and he was the only baby, so you saw everyone told you why don’t you ask how it is done to be President? And I, like a fool, listen to them and ask you: ‘Mr. Menem, how do you become president?’ And Menem tells me: ‘Well, you have to study hard and above all pay close attention to your parents.’ And the anecdote tells and I remember quite a bit that I said ‘ah no, I then President, I’m not going to be, and I left.'” I was diagnosed, it was a very terrible thing. In first grade, a director of living languages, in the school I was attending, a borderline disorder, that is, a level of IQ much lower than normal and I spent three and a half years, which are very good years, which I have very good memories, in a special mixed school, where there were children who had Down syndrome with other types of situations, maturation delay, etc.”.” I made several divorces in general representing women in a case, which happens that I can not say the names, but of a very famous person that I litigated against that very famous person who mistreated his wife a lot, and there we did well “I think that there is more and more openness to married people of the Church to fulfill functions that are approaching that of priests. But I do not tear my garments either, saying, ‘ah how terrible celibacy is in the twenty-first century.’ As long as it is voluntary and a consensual decision… It seems to me a life choice as valid as that of others.” The internal one within the Frente de Todos, which has existed since Alberto took office, deepens with the agreement it makes with the International Monetary Fund and that had been a watershed, because we, who are a sector that was not part of Kirchnerism in power, but that consistently defended Cristina from persecution and had an ideological doctrinal position in terms of national sovereignty. of social justice, of confrontation with the sectors of power very close to that of Cristina.” I believe that we must be angry, that we must be indignant and we must also understand. And to understand you have to talk to people, otherwise you will never understand them. So, obviously I would sit down and talk to Galperín. I have nothing personal against Galperín. I have something political against the business model that he uses, which is that of a monopoly of vertical integration.” If we go to the black box of your life, what is the moment that makes you the person you are today?: “I think when I first went to share a mate cooked with the cartoneros. I think that was the moment that took me in a direction, and I wouldn’t change it for anything. If you ask me, there is one thing that scares me and that is to deviate from that course, by bad spirit or by exhaustion. I don’t want politics or anything else to take me the direction I started that day because it would be betraying myself and my colleagues.  We all need help and I’m also very tired of many things, but at least I have to bank it, I don’t know, 20 more years.”Towards the end of the interview the black box opens. An unexpected challenge begins. Week by week a figure will be submitted to the living room to dialogue and reflect. And you, do you dare to remember what moment a click made in your life?

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